Comments on: Happy Happy Joy Joy – My Ruminations On A Week of iPhoning http://www.deeptrouble.com/2007/07/09/happy-happy-joy-joy-my-ruminations-on-a-week-of-iphoning/ Hi! my name is Amandeep Jawa & this is my website... because I'm shy. :-) Check out my picture pages for my random adventures... Tue, 31 Jan 2012 05:59:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jonathan Gibson http://www.deeptrouble.com/2007/07/09/happy-happy-joy-joy-my-ruminations-on-a-week-of-iphoning/comment-page-1/#comment-11773 Jonathan Gibson Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:40:43 +0000 http://www.deeptrouble.com/?p=98#comment-11773 Deep One, A-ha, a minor mystery solved... I knew there was _something_ about your word choices and picture and nom-de-plume that was tickling some portion of my hind-brain and I finally realized where we met & I have only one question to ask as I pack survival gear and play-thangs for the annual upcoming bonfire of the humanities... Will you be there with the Glam Clam again? We met hosting Mehndi Body Art a few years back and you were playing mobile karaoke - my wife Judi, her sister, and my brother in-law, sang to the Kermit version of Rainbow Connection. We greatly enjoyed your idea and implimentation and hope you do something as enjoyable again sometime. We are in Center Camp {by some loose definition - at least nearby} again this year sponsoring camp Hot Monkey Sox. If you are attending, please swinng by and beat the heat, make a green sock monkey and make new friends. - Jonathan, Judi and lil' Dexter - aka "Team Gibson" BTW - you can see our recent handiwork @ www.cindergardendesigns.com/ where we paid for our trip this year ... a first! Deep One,

A-ha, a minor mystery solved…

I knew there was _something_ about your word choices and picture and nom-de-plume that was tickling some portion of my hind-brain and I finally realized where we met & I have only one question to ask as I pack survival gear and play-thangs for the annual upcoming bonfire of the humanities…
Will you be there with the Glam Clam again?

We met hosting Mehndi Body Art a few years back and you were playing mobile karaoke – my wife Judi, her sister, and my brother in-law, sang to the Kermit version of Rainbow Connection. We greatly enjoyed your idea and implimentation and hope you do something as enjoyable again sometime.

We are in Center Camp {by some loose definition – at least nearby} again this year sponsoring camp Hot Monkey Sox. If you are attending, please swinng by and beat the heat, make a green sock monkey and make new friends.

- Jonathan, Judi and lil’ Dexter -
aka “Team Gibson”

BTW – you can see our recent handiwork @ http://www.cindergardendesigns.com/ where we paid for our trip this year … a first!

]]> By: Jonathan Hunt http://www.deeptrouble.com/2007/07/09/happy-happy-joy-joy-my-ruminations-on-a-week-of-iphoning/comment-page-1/#comment-10794 Jonathan Hunt Mon, 30 Jul 2007 01:02:50 +0000 http://www.deeptrouble.com/?p=98#comment-10794 Deep, great comments. I loved the part about the "wow, how cool" reaction as oppsed to the "oh, that's lame" reaction -- I feel the same way. On the typing-- I agree that once you stop fighting its smartness, input is really fast. I did a comparison test of me speed on a manual typewriter and on the iPhone and was surprised to see that the phone was somewhat faster and with fewer errors. I'm thinking of starring an iPhone blog -- or "iPhlog" -- composed entirely on the iPhone. In reply to Jeffrey, above: if you and I have different opinions about the UI, I don't think that makes my enthusiam "uncritical" -- it may simply be that, as a user, I place higher value on certain features than you do, and lower value on others. It may depend on personal preferences, on profession or workflow, or simply on prior experiences. Lastly, a word about a criticism I heard ont the radio -- a point similar to the one you mentioned, Deep -- the reviewer said that the greatest flaw of the iPhone is that it doesn't have a real keyboard. This is like criticizing the early automobile because it didn't have a horse. If a horse is what you want, stick with the horse, by all means. But that doesn't mean that there are no advantages to the horseless carriage (this extended metaphor not intended as an endorsement of car culture). Deep, great comments. I loved the part about the “wow, how cool” reaction as oppsed to the “oh, that’s lame” reaction — I feel the same way.

On the typing– I agree that once you stop fighting its smartness, input is really fast. I did a comparison test of me speed on a manual typewriter and on the iPhone and was surprised to see that the phone was somewhat faster and with fewer errors. I’m thinking of starring an iPhone blog — or “iPhlog” — composed entirely on the iPhone.

In reply to Jeffrey, above: if you and I have different opinions about the UI, I don’t think that makes my enthusiam “uncritical” — it may simply be that, as a user, I place higher value on certain features than you do, and lower value on others. It may depend on personal preferences, on profession or workflow, or simply on prior experiences.

Lastly, a word about a criticism I heard ont the radio — a point similar to the one you mentioned, Deep — the reviewer said that the greatest flaw of the iPhone is that it doesn’t have a real keyboard. This is like criticizing the early automobile because it didn’t have a horse. If a horse is what you want, stick with the horse, by all means. But that doesn’t mean that there are no advantages to the horseless carriage (this extended metaphor not intended as an endorsement of car culture).

]]> By: Jonathan Gibson http://www.deeptrouble.com/2007/07/09/happy-happy-joy-joy-my-ruminations-on-a-week-of-iphoning/comment-page-1/#comment-10197 Jonathan Gibson Tue, 10 Jul 2007 21:12:22 +0000 http://www.deeptrouble.com/?p=98#comment-10197 Greetings, I enjoyed your candid review - as far as an employee can be - and look forward to other speculatons and affirmations you lay out. I have an errand that kees me from rambling as I might, but I'll lurk again. @Jin, Over at RoughlyDrafted Daniel Dilger has the most concise explaination I've seen on the various permutaion of cell technology between the various carriers and device makers worldwide. http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q3.07/2A965C21-4325-41E2-845E-748805B5D2DB.html He's also got some of the best analysis of the market and I regularly anticipate and read his work. I especially liked his review of the demise of WinCE {O - what an acronym}. Highly recommended from this complete stranger {although I feel like I have met Deep once or twice}. Blog-on Wayne: be good to one another. Ta-ta, dah-links, -J- Greetings,

I enjoyed your candid review – as far as an employee can be – and look forward to other speculatons and affirmations you lay out. I have an errand that kees me from rambling as I might, but I’ll lurk again.

@Jin,
Over at RoughlyDrafted Daniel Dilger has the most concise explaination I’ve seen on the various permutaion of cell technology between the various carriers and device makers worldwide.
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q3.07/2A965C21-4325-41E2-845E-748805B5D2DB.html
He’s also got some of the best analysis of the market and I regularly anticipate and read his work. I especially liked his review of the demise of WinCE {O – what an acronym}.
Highly recommended from this complete stranger {although I feel like I have met Deep once or twice}.

Blog-on Wayne: be good to one another.

Ta-ta, dah-links,
-J-

]]> By: Jin http://www.deeptrouble.com/2007/07/09/happy-happy-joy-joy-my-ruminations-on-a-week-of-iphoning/comment-page-1/#comment-10168 Jin Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:28:19 +0000 http://www.deeptrouble.com/?p=98#comment-10168 Deep, It's good to see a well tought out review of the iPhone from someone I know. However, I wonder if we're all swept up in the must have one / cult of Apple hysteria that reminds me of the Tickle Me Elmo release many moons ago. My friend made a good point: If the CEO of Nokia came out with a $500 smart phone that didn't work with AT&T's fastest network (iPhone uses the slower Edge network) and lacked cut and paste, these flaws would dominate reviews. Jobs gets a standing ovation. I haven't played with an iPhone myself yet, so maybe I'll be won over when I actually try one. For now, I'm wondering why the free LG phone I got from AT&T runs on a faster network than the iPhone and if those parents still boast about how many people they had to deck to get their red plush toy. Deep,

It’s good to see a well tought out review of the iPhone from someone I know. However, I wonder if we’re all swept up in the must have one / cult of Apple hysteria that reminds me of the Tickle Me Elmo release many moons ago.

My friend made a good point: If the CEO of Nokia came out with a $500 smart phone that didn’t work with AT&T’s fastest network (iPhone uses the slower Edge network) and lacked cut and paste, these flaws would dominate reviews. Jobs gets a standing ovation.

I haven’t played with an iPhone myself yet, so maybe I’ll be won over when I actually try one. For now, I’m wondering why the free LG phone I got from AT&T runs on a faster network than the iPhone and if those parents still boast about how many people they had to deck to get their red plush toy.

]]> By: Jeffrey W. Baker http://www.deeptrouble.com/2007/07/09/happy-happy-joy-joy-my-ruminations-on-a-week-of-iphoning/comment-page-1/#comment-10165 Jeffrey W. Baker Mon, 09 Jul 2007 17:09:54 +0000 http://www.deeptrouble.com/?p=98#comment-10165 The praise for the UI seems somewhat uncritical to me. It is very hard to do common things. I just got back from a weekend in the mountains, where I didn't bother looking at my email. Now I have hundreds of emails. How do I mark them all as read? How do I delete them all? In the current iPhone UI I have to swipe my finger on every one of those hundreds of emails. On my BlackBerry there's a menu item to delete or mark read all mail, or all mail prior to a certain date. It's the kind of feature that comes from real-world use of the device. The iPhone is clearly a nice piece of kit but I don't know if I'm convinced of its iPod-ness yet. The original iPod, which I bought immediately when it was released, was flawless and at that time there was no other music player with its capacity and features. The praise for the UI seems somewhat uncritical to me. It is very hard to do common things. I just got back from a weekend in the mountains, where I didn’t bother looking at my email. Now I have hundreds of emails. How do I mark them all as read? How do I delete them all? In the current iPhone UI I have to swipe my finger on every one of those hundreds of emails. On my BlackBerry there’s a menu item to delete or mark read all mail, or all mail prior to a certain date. It’s the kind of feature that comes from real-world use of the device.

The iPhone is clearly a nice piece of kit but I don’t know if I’m convinced of its iPod-ness yet. The original iPod, which I bought immediately when it was released, was flawless and at that time there was no other music player with its capacity and features.

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